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I'm out

Posted by FlyMusik - September 12th, 2009


Well, I've finally decided to leave NG and take my unnapreciated music somewhere else.

Don't think that i'm giving up on myself, i'm not. I'll never stop making music.

It's Newgrounds I'm giving up on.

Yes, Newgrounds, I'm dissapointed in you. Here are the two main problems with the audio portal:

1. Your submission gets closer to the top of the list based on it's score, not how recently it was put on. Basically, if a song gets any lower than a 4.30 (and this goes with almost every genre), it will never be seen again. It's almost as if you treasure those artists who dominated right off the bat and ignore those who still have progress to make. I can could sound exactly like kalibur in one of my songs and still have it at the bottom of the list forever. So pretty much, a song that doesn't have a high score will NEVER have a high score, and the songs WITH high scores will keep GETTING high scores and the people who don't dominate right off the bat are stuck at the bottom or middle.

2. People who have been on Newgrounds longer have more of a say in a song. This means that my song can have a 4.33 out of five, and then suddenly drop to 3.27 out of five with one vote. This person that voted probably listen to the first three seconds of my song, didn't like the genre, and ruined my average. Even if they really did listen to the whole song, give me one good reason why their vote should decide the fate of a song, and someone else's should make no difference at all. Kind of stupid, hmm? Notice how everyone else's vote doesn't even matter, even though they genuinely liked the song and WENT TO THE TROUBLE TO REVIEW IT. What I'm trying to say here is, no matter how much experience people have, it doesn't make their OPINION MORE VALID THAN SOMEONE ELSE'S. Fix this, Newgrounds, for the rest of people. Everyone should have an equal say in how good a song is.

I'm not quite as pissed off about the art portal, but somehow my art wasn't good enough or i did something wrong or something. Whatever happened, i got no notification and I still have no clue why i'm being censored.

If you want more proof, take a look at my current scores, and take a look at my scores at the very beginning of my time here at NG. Not too different, eh? Maybe a couple of fours here and there, but mostly it's twos and threes.

Now take a listen. Don't tell me you can't hear how much I've improved, but notice that my scores are still pretty much unchanged.

Almost all of my 4/5s got to where they are because I voted 5 on them to boost them up. Only a couple are actually all people.

I'm not saying that successful people on Newgrounds aren't very good. I've heard a lot of good people on newgrounds.

But most of those people joined Newgrounds when they were already good, so they good popular as soon as they joined, and will always be popular.

And i know i have fans. My music actually is liked. And i'm glad that people like it, but i feel as if i'm getting nowhere on this site. This is not a music site. It's a flash site. Live with the facts. If you get successful, great. If you don't, you probably agree with everything i'm saying right now.

When i find another site, i'll PM my fans telling them where they can find me.

Who knows, maybe i'll even come back! Maybe i'll start up again! But for now, so long everybody.

I'm out.


Comments

I agree completely.

However, not all of the highest rated songs are actually any good. Mostly, they're just things that have been voted on once or twice that haven't even been in the portal for very long. Honestly, a lot of the good songs I've heard on here all have scores between 4 and 3, because they've had so many votes.

I also hate how people can have higher and lower voting powers, especially because the people with higher ones generally have no life and only get that kind of power by mindlessly voting on every submission they see. I think your voting power should DECREASE the more frequently you vote and then work its way up again over time.

I do value reviews a lot, when people give legitimate ones. Even when they don't, it's still much more than a vote, but sadly you can't sort submissions by their average review score, or even downloads. Seriously, you'd find so much better stuff if you could sort by downloads. Of course, that would mean new stuff would sink to the bottom, but if you were sorting by downloads, you'd probably be looking for more recognised works.

Aaah, I've almost written as much as you! XD
Sorry...

Yah I figured out the scoring system on NG is completly useless very quickly after I joined NG. You can actually view audio submissions sorted by date though. When you chose a genre, in the top right there are 3 options to sort by: Score, title and date. I havent even looked at the score page in some time now, I always click on the date option.

And most likely you can tell if your song is good if you don't have a high score (believe it or not). A few people on this site have jealous tendencies and will vote you down if they think you will pose a threat to their standing on the score charts. But sometimes if the artist sucks then the score will reflect that...

Reviews are golden though. If you take the time to review other people's art, they might do the same for you. Kinda like karma.

Finally: Don't leave man, I like your music.

DON'T LEAVE!

They should like disable the voing until youve listen to half the song.